I didn’t know how that even felt.Īnd I’m getting ready for work, and I take a shower, and go into my closet, opened the underwear drawer, and I have one pair of underwear left. I was exhausted physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually exhausted, and I didn’t know what that was. Our oldest son, Josh, was getting married. Robert: What happened was I’d just come back from a mission trip. And I said at one point, 2005, I looked back, I think it was 2003 or 4, but the bottom line is it was The Great Underwear Crisis. Well, I call it the Great Underwear Crisis. How did that happen? Where did you reach that point in your life where you kind of hit that wall and God began to stir in you this idea of Sabbath and taking the day off? God walked you through this process of teaching you a valuable lesson that now you’re passing on to other pastors so hopefully they don’t have to walk through some of those same difficulties that you walked through in those seasons. Jon: And I learned a lesson from you that hopefully I never have to walk through what you had to walk through, and I’m going to have you tell the whole underwear crisis story in a minute, but really, all of this is in your new book, Take the Day Off. I know, like, even for me, I came to a Jimmy Evans Pastor School back in 2015, and I had just became a lead pastor not too long before that. Not all of them are pastors, but many of them are. Jon: Well, what I want to talk to you about, through this process, you’re coming up on the 20 year anniversary of Gateway Church, what are some lessons you’ve learned? Obviously, there’s many, but a lot of our listeners are pastors. I said, “God, I ask you for 300 million souls.” You know, when you write scripture on the walls and then you cover it up with sheet rock, and we actually even uncover one of those boards. I wrote it on the walls of a prayer center. But I would love to see … That’s my goal. Robert: So, I’m going to just keep on going and then pass it off to someone when I can’t keep going. Robert: The Lord actually gave me a dream of a church of 30,000 in one location in the metroplex, 300,000 in multiple locations in the metroplex, and then, I felt like it wasn’t so much whether it’d be Gateway Church, but reaching three million in the State of Texas, 30 million in America, and 300 million in the world. Robert: Well, I haven’t got to my big dream yet, and that’s kind of a… If we can get to …” What was your big dream, and did God surpass your biggest dream? What did you think? What was your like, “Okay, if we can just get to 2000, we’d be awesome. But when you started this thing, when God first planted this thing in your heart, did you ever imagine it becoming what it is today? Obviously, people can look at it today and see what it’s become, multiple campuses, influence around the world, ministering and affecting people and lives and pastors everywhere. Well, the first thing I want to ask you is, back in 2000, you started Gateway Church. I am really, really glad to be here, and I’m honored, honored, honored to be a part of The King’s University. Jon: We’re excited to have you on today, Pastor Robert. Robert and his wife, Debbie, have been married 39 years and are blessed with three children and nine grandchildren. He serves as chancellor of The King’s University and is the bestselling author of numerous books, including The Blessed Life, Frequency, Beyond Blessed, and Take the Day Off. His television program is aired in over 190 countries, and his radio program, Worship & the Word with Pastor Robert, airs in more than 1,800 radio markets across America. Since it began in 2000, the church has grown to more than 71,000 active attendees. Robert Morris is the founding lead senior pastor of Gateway Church, a multicampus church based out of the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex. Jon Chasteen talks to Pastor Robert about what every pastor needs. In this episode of the Church InTension podcast, Dr. In nearly four decades of ministry, Pastor Robert Morris knows all too well that ministry work can lead to burnout.
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